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title: "Towards Cross-Tokenizer Distillation: the Universal Logit Distillation Loss for LLMs — Boizard 2024"
description: "Drawing on optimal transport, the authors introduce a new objective they name the Universal Logit Distillation… 66 references, cited by 34 papers here."
authors: ["Nicolas Boizard", "Kevin El Haddad", "Celine Hudelot", "Pierre Colombo"]
year: 2024
venue: "arXiv:2402.12030 · Transactions on Machine Learning Research, January 2025"
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# Towards Cross-Tokenizer Distillation: the Universal Logit Distillation Loss for LLMs

**Authors:** Nicolas Boizard, Kevin El Haddad, Celine Hudelot and [Pierre Colombo](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/en/authors/pierre-colombo/) · **Year:** 2024 · **Venue:** arXiv:2402.12030 · Transactions on Machine Learning Research, January 2025 · **Licence:** [CC BY 4.0 (arXiv)](http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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## Summary

Logit-based knowledge distillation usually relies on KL divergence. This requires the teacher and the student to share one vocabulary, but LLM families rarely share tokenizers. As a result, practitioners mostly fall back on fine-tuning the student on text the teacher has generated. Drawing on optimal transport, the authors introduce a new objective they name the Universal Logit Distillation (ULD) loss. It uses a closed-form Wasserstein distance to compare the output distributions of teacher and student even when their vocabularies differ. The method treats both models as black boxes, needing only their logits, so it also works across architectures. They test it with a LLama teacher and smaller students such as Pythia-410m, Bloomz-560m and the encoder-decoder MT0-580m. Tasks cover extractive QA, generative QA and summarization, on SQuAD, QED, PubMedQA and DIALOGSum. ULD consistently beats distillation from teacher-generated text. It reaches comparable quality with roughly half the data or half the student size, and it curbs overfitting. Code, weights and generated datasets are released, making distillation feasible between arbitrary model families.

## Key points

- Tokenizer mismatch is substantial: for example, the Bloomz tokenizer covers only 30.03% of Mistral's vocabulary, so KL-based logit distillation cannot be applied directly.
- In the dataset-size ablation (LLama → Pythia-410m, five runs per ratio), ULD wins at every ratio tested (25%, 50%, 75% and 100% of the data). With only 50% of the data, it outperforms teacher-text training on the full set.
- Pythia-410m trained with ULD matches Pythia-1b trained on teacher-generated text on QED and DIALOGSum.
- Cross-architecture transfer (LLama decoder → MT0-580m encoder-decoder), teacher-text vs ULD:
  - QED F1: 55.63 → 56.01
  - PubMedQA BERTScore: 27.56 → 30.19
  - DIALOGSum Rouge-Lsum: 23.22 → 23.92
- Resources: code is at github.com/Nicolas-BZRD/llm-recipes, and models and datasets are on Hugging Face (Nicolas-BZRD).

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## Cite

Cite as: Nicolas Boizard, Kevin El Haddad, Celine Hudelot and Pierre Colombo. 2024. Towards Cross-Tokenizer Distillation: the Universal Logit Distillation Loss for LLMs. arXiv:2402.12030 · Transactions on Machine Learning Research, January 2025.

The paper itself, not this page. BibTeX from the library's record of the work.

```bibtex
@misc{boizard2024cross,
  title = {{Towards Cross-Tokenizer Distillation: the Universal Logit Distillation Loss for LLMs}},
  author = {Nicolas Boizard, Kevin {El Haddad}, Celine Hudelot and Pierre Colombo},
  year = {2024},
  doi = {10.48550/arxiv.2402.12030},
  eprint = {2402.12030},
  archivePrefix = {arXiv},
  url = {https://doi.org/10.48550/arxiv.2402.12030}
}
```

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