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title: "Where Are We in Discourse Relation — Atwell 2021"
description: "This position paper asks why discourse relation parsers, despite their theoretical appeal, rarely improve downstream NLP tasks."
authors: ["Katherine Atwell", "Junyi Jessy Li", "Malihe Alikhani"]
year: 2021
venue: "Proceedings of the 22nd Annual Meeting of the Special Interest Group on Discourse and Dialogue"
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# Where Are We in Discourse Relation Recognition?

**Authors:** [Katherine Atwell](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/authors/katherine-atwell/), [Junyi Jessy Li](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/authors/junyi-jessy-li/), [Malihe Alikhani](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/authors/malihe-alikhani/) · **Year:** 2021 · **Venue:** Proceedings of the 22nd Annual Meeting of the Special Interest Group on Discourse and Dialogue · **Licence:** [CC BY 4.0 (ACL Anthology)](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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**Citations:** 10 citations (openalex-snapshot · 2026-10-14) · [20](#cited-by) in our library, of the 140673 papers whose bibliographies we read

## Summary
This position paper asks why discourse relation parsers, despite their theoretical appeal, rarely improve downstream NLP tasks. The authors suspect two causes: parsers are weak, and they are applied to text that differs from their WSJ training data. They test this with gradual domain shift. First, they compare implicit relations across PDTB-2, PDTB-3 and the intra-sentential subset of PDTB-3, using the BERT-based DiscoEval classifier (Chen et al., 2019). Second, they run PDTB and RST parsers on unannotated text: WSJ articles outside the Penn Treebank, other news, and the GUM corpus. Linguists annotated these outputs by hand. Errors appear even on in-domain WSJ text. Accuracy did not differ notably between in-domain and out-of-domain samples, but the types of errors did. Inter- and intra-sentential implicit relations behave differently. Many errors stem from ignoring context beyond the two arguments, and RST parsers suffer from attachment errors that cascade through the tree. The authors call for context-aware, uncertainty-calibrated parsers and release their annotated data.

## Key points
- Over more than a decade, English implicit relation recognition improved by less than 8 F1 points: Lin et al. (2009) reported 40.2, while Lee et al. (2020) reached only 47.8.
- Accuracy of the BERT-based DiscoEval classifier (base / large):
  - PDTB-2: 0.4236 / 0.4358
  - PDTB-3: 0.4897 / 0.5094
  - PDTB-3 intra-sentential: 0.6251 / 0.6251
- Plain-text PDTB parsing combined the Wang and Lan (2015) end-to-end parser with the DiscoEval implicit sense classifier. Among the evaluation texts, only GUM has gold RST labels, and none have gold PDTB labels.
- RST parsers frequently mislabel relations as Same-Unit or Elaboration and make attachment mistakes. The paper also criticizes the standard practice of collapsing relations into 18 top-level classes, which turns Elaboration into a very large class.
- The annotated dataset is available at github.com/katherine-atwell/discourse-domain-shift.

*Our summary of the paper, in our own words — not its text. The work belongs to its authors; read it at the links above.*

Fields: [Linguistics & languages](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/shelves/linguistics/)

Topics: [Discourse analysis](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/topics/discourse-analysis/)

## Cited by

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20 papers of our library cite it (of the 140673 whose bibliographies we read); 7 of them have a page here, 13 not yet.

- [The Change that Matters in Discourse Parsing: Estimating the Impact of Domain Shift on Parser Error](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/atwell-2022-change-that-matters-discourse-parsing/)
- [Discourse Analysis via Questions and Answers: Parsing Dependency Structures of Questions Under Discussion](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/ko-2023-discourse-analysis-questions-answers-parsing/)
- [Discourse Relation Prediction and Discourse Parsing in Dialogues with Minimal Supervision](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/li-2024-discourse-relation-prediction-discourse-parsing/)
- [Why Can't Discourse Parsing Generalize? A Thorough Investigation of the Impact of Data Diversity](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/liu-2023-why-can-t-discourse-parsing/)
- [GCDT: A Chinese RST Treebank for Multigenre and Multilingual Discourse Parsing](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/peng-2022-gcdt-chinese-rst-treebank-multigenre/)
- [GENTLE: A Genre-Diverse Multilayer Challenge Set for English NLP and Linguistic Evaluation](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/treebanks-2023-aoyama-gentle-genre-diverse-multilayer-challenge/)
- [Elaborative Simplification as Implicit Questions Under Discussion](https://md.research.elamur.ai/free/papers/wu-2023-elaborative-simplification-as-implicit-questions/)

## Cite

The paper itself, not this page. BibTeX from the library's record of the work.

```bibtex
@inproceedings{atwell2021where,
  title = {{Where Are We in Discourse Relation Recognition?}},
  author = {Atwell, Katherine and Li, Junyi Jessy and Alikhani, Malihe},
  booktitle = {Proceedings of the 22nd Annual Meeting of the Special Interest Group on Discourse and Dialogue},
  year = {2021},
  doi = {10.18653/v1/2021.sigdial-1.34},
  url = {https://doi.org/10.18653/v1/2021.sigdial-1.34}
}
```

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